start up order
# network-pre bridge is created
clone-wifi
wpa_supplicant #--dbus version does not start the interface directly
test-wifi  # uses dbus to scan the network grabbing the channel alters hostapd.conf if needed
hostapd

# network
wpa_supplicant started by dhcpcd, wpa_supplicant@$IFACE  netplan-wpa-$IFACE, or NetworkManager 

